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my name is aiden lee ([personal profile] donghae) wrote2009-02-04 10:52 pm

☞ icon critique meme

ICONCRITMEME

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♠ reply to this post with your username and/or journal you post your icons at. along with that, post 5-12 icon samples, so everyone can give you some of their thoughts too.

♡ reply to people's ( even people that you aren't familiar with an outsider's perspective is good ) comments with critiques and opinions on their icons. anonymous comments are enabled and ip logging is disabled, if you feel you need to use that option.

♣ try to be polite, but at the same time honest. the purpose of this meme is to be helpful, so any wank will be deleted.

♢ pimp this out in your journal and/or icon community, etcetera.
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[identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com 2009-02-05 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] acidrica @ [livejournal.com profile] acidicprocess

I'm freakishly new at this, so any help at all would be appreciated! I focus on icons for rp journals, so...yeah. I make my own screencaps, crop, mess with the contrast/levels, and that's about it at this point. ._____.

Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=ed2-1.jpg) Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=ed3.jpg) Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=kovu4.jpg) Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=shenzi5.jpg) Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=zazu2.jpg) Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=envy6.jpg)
Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=ed1.jpg) Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=zira19.jpg) Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=scar16.jpg) Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=scar27.jpg) Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=scar30.jpg) Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=scar37.jpg)

[identity profile] grazie.livejournal.com 2009-02-05 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
You should probably use some more high quality bases. All of these icons have a very grainy texture to it that doesn't jive well with the colors, which could probably be enhanced. I suggest playing around with layers more to bring out the colors you want.

Right now, otherwise, these look like flat crops.
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[identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, thanks! I had to get really close to the screen to notice the texture, but now that I've messed with my monitor a bit, it really shows. Ugh. Is it mostly the top row for you, or do they all look like that?

Thanks, I'm going to try to break photoshop over my knee now. .___.

[identity profile] grazie.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
The bottom row is significantly less grainy than the top row, I think!

And my advice is to look up some icon making tutorials, to show you how to play with layers.
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[identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Derp, and I made those months ago. I need to know what I was on. I looked over the files and I think part of the problem is how I saved the icons. The base screencaps I used were grainy, but not nearly that grainy!

Thank you so much! I knew my friends were lying when they said they were 'perfect'. xD

[identity profile] continuum.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'd agree with the above commenter about the screencap quality -- 3 and 4 in particular are quite grainy and because you do a lot of anime/2D icons, the quality is really important since it's easier to see graininess in the type of flat smooth colours that 2D animation uses. Granted, I know sometimes it's hard to find good quality caps for certain series, but I think more popular ones like Lion King and FMA should have comms and such that can help.

I like your cropping and you capture expressions very well -- the cropping on Scar (9, 10, 11), I really like those and I think you should try doing more of that off-to-the-side look since you seem to center your subject a lot. Icons like 2 and 6, for instance, you could shift the subject over to the side a bit more to make a half-crop; not all or even most of the subject's face or body has to be contained in the icon. Using negative space can make things interesting, as well.

You mentioned using levels and contrast -- I'd suggest layering on some selective colouring, and using fill colour layers set on soft light or exclusion (a dark blue fill layer put on Exclusion gives a really nice peach-pink skin tone to a lot of anime characters) to get the colouring you want. If you stick with brightening/contrasting only, the icons can look more like bases rather than finished products. I'm actually partial to using curves myself to brighten an icon instead of using the brightness/contrast, too, although sometimes I'll use both -- I find the Curves adjustment gives better control, though.

If I were to pick out your best one in this batch, I would pick 8, especially on the colouring front. It's nice and bright -- though I'd still suggest playing around with more adjustment layers a bit -- and I think if you combined the colouring you did there with the crops you've used for 9/10/11, you'd be well on your way.

Anyway, yeah. XD; Hope that helps? ♥ Good luck!
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[identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
MAIA I LOVE YOU~

I did a little test with some images and found out that the screencaps weren't bad, I just saved them wrong (that's a big relief to me, since I've been using a pretty good program to screencap, and the thought that I'd managed to mess that up too....well.... .______. Not to mention I prefer doing every bit of work myself, even if it comes out worse for it. *stupid*).

This is how it was supposed to look. (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/exmp2.png)

And then what ended up happening. (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/exmp1.png)

That's probably why the bottom ones look better. I still saved them as .jpgs, but I saved it at the highest quality. The top ones are more recent, and the first icons I've made since, ah, getting the full version of photoshop. I think I got careless.

I wasn't using PokemonSnap! logic, wut? Yeah, I tend to get kind of paranoid that I'll end up with not enough face/expression/whatever, so I center like a moron. xD

I'm generally afraid of using layers, but I think I'm going to make myself learn now. And yes, that was freakishly helpful, thank you so much! ♥♥♥

[identity profile] continuum.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I LOVE YOU TOO. I think it's cool you take your own screencaps. XD; I tend to rely on caps from other people.

I find that if the subject -- especially the face -- fills most of the icon, it looks a bit odd to the eye, although that doesn't mean center crops can't work either. :3 But with partial-face crops, you can use it to emphasize the character's expression, too, since then you're looking at just the most important part of the features instead of the whole face.

Oh but -- speaking of .jpgs, I think another thing that can help up the quality is if you save your icons as .png. The quality difference isn't immense and sometimes you can't even notice, but it does help in other cases.

Layers are a lifesaver once you get the hang of them. [livejournal.com profile] icon_tutorial has a bunch of tutorials that show you how to use layers. That's kind of how I picked up how to use them at first, and then you just sort of start figuring out your own style after awhile. ♥

GLAD I COULD HELP THOUGH.
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[identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
It helps to give the illusion that I'm actually doing something with merit. xD

I think my eyes are broke. .___. Most of the time I prefer for the whole face to show, but for it to be slightly off, if that makes sense? Otherwise it annoys me.

YOU SAID THAT JUST AS I FOUND A GUIDE TO THOSE xD &hearts You're awesome, hon.

OH:

Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/icons/?action=view&current=test3.png) I make something with layers~ \o/ Could you tell me if it's grainy or not? I need to know if my monitor just sucks balls. This is one I made and saved to a png.

boyking: (/the little things)

[personal profile] boyking 2009-02-08 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
XD I can understand that. I guess it's more of a preference thing. I'll usually shrink the whole thing down to use the negative space or I slice off, like, half of the face, ahaha.

That one looks good to me! Although I might use the sharpen function on the base layer to make it a little clearer? It's not grainy, but it is somewhat blurry. But yeah, the image quality is just fine. ♥

Monitors are annoying though alkjds; I've re-calibrated mine like ten times and I still don't know if it's correct. @__@

[identity profile] nijiirono.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Bottom row looks better quality with the images (the top are grainy. Personally I size grainy things down until you can't tell...). But I want you to photoshop the second to last on the bottom row so it looks like he's holding up his middle finger.
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[identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
It'll look bad, but I'll do it just for you. =P <3
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YOU ASKED FOR IT

[identity profile] acidrica.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Image (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/HisaKurozawa/?action=view&current=fingerlol.png)

Hint: I think he's stoned.

Re: YOU ASKED FOR IT

[identity profile] nijiirono.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I wanna have your babies, get serious like crazy~!